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To the camarilla of pretexters, the social engineers (reposting)
13Sep2006
Filed under: World of Research
Author: Dave
given the recent furor of patricia dunn’s activities at hewlett packard, i felt that it might be rather timely to repost this posting from last may (may ‘05) regarding the cover story in private investigator magazine that explored pretexting…
i rarely repost shit, but honestly this is a very solid interview (in the mag, not the post itself)…
for additional insights regarding how such a stunt might have been pulled off, also consider these postings:
1) how to do caller id spoofing
2) conversational terrorism tactics (a bit more extreme of course)
3) more about elicitation tactics…
4) the effectiveness of lies by im, phone, email etc…
FROM 5/17/05 (yes, 05)
damn, what a treat for the general public - pi magazine (the journal of professional investigators) has released a free copy of their january/february 2005 cover article in which they interviewed joel winston, associate director of the ftc to discuss pretexting …what’s pretexting? well, it’s a fancy word for ‘lying‘ to get information, feel free to check out a primer on pretexting (per the dictionary: ” praetextus, p. p. of praetexere: to weave before, allege as an excuse; prae before + texere to weave. Ostensible reason or motive assigned or assumed as a color or cover for the real reason or motive; pretense; disguise.“)…if you’ve read any of kevin mitnick’s books about social engineering (another phrase, synonymous with pretexting at a basic level, and interchangable with ‘rusing’…and lying in general)
so yeah, the big issue has to do with lying to get information - specifically, is it illegal? certainly there are state-by-state issues…this particular interview covers some of the most granular elements surrounding the procurement of personal financial information in support of fraud type claims…very interesting stuff…i’m gonna spare you the quips as well as the summary because you should really just read the entire article yourself, it ain’t that long…btw, new bruce springsteen dvd side of the double cd/dvd is outstanding, which has nothing to do with anything (cool, huh? you should start your own blog today and insert stupid ass comments like that!)
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May 17th, 2005 at 3:08 pm
TRY THIS ONE ON:
GREG HAUSER PRETEXT MANUAL
By: Greg Hauser
Here is an all new pretext manual that covers the art of pretexts as well as the laws that govern the use of pretexts. Greg Hauser reveals rogues and subterfuges that really work. Subject Outline: Introduction, Use Of Pretexts, Insurance, Bank Accounts, Character History, Unlisted Telephone Numbers and Surveillance Pretexts. Exhibits include pretext forms and approaches you can use including: Deliver Pretexts, Grocery Survey Pretext, Voter Survey Pretext, TV Survey Pretext, Bowling Pretext, Driver Survey Pretext, Background Survey Pretext, Credit Application, Insurance Questionnaire, Bank Survey. 62 pages, large 8 1/2 X 11. $29.95
You know who I am Dave (2)
May 17th, 2005 at 3:08 pm
TRY THIS ONE TOO:
THE OLD ROPER
Insurance Fraud Investigator Reveals Roping Techniques
By John R. Rose
The Old Roper is an extremely useful and unusual pretext book containing specific details from the case files of Mr. John Rose on how he handled some of the most difficult insurance fraud case assignments you have seen. Gleaned from decades of experience, you’ll gain a blockbuster and powerhouse of powerful roping techniques you can learn and use on different types of insurance fraud. The textbook is factual, entertaining and extremely revealing. One investigator in Salem Oregon stated that the book should be, “Mandatory reading for every investigator.” Learn to solve those difficult insurance fraud cases quickly and easily. 211 pages. $38.00
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June 13th, 2005 at 7:16 pm
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May 21st, 2007 at 11:58 am
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August 10th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Post-modern theorists have been telling us for a number of years that we are living in a “Matrix�-like world, one where nothing is real. We buy “organic� foods from Whole Foods that is specially grown. We “socialize� in chat rooms. We all walk around with our own personal soundtrack playing on our iPod. Even the trees and grass all around us are there by design rather than what might be termed “naturally occurring.� We have created a world that is designed to fool us. Is it any surprise then that there are people out there debating the finer points of pretexting rather than debating whether it should be practiced at all, or better yet, simply recognizing it as an abhorrent practice. We spend a lot of time blaming others for doing things we find despicable, but we often forget that we live in a world that we ourselves created.
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September 10th, 2007 at 4:19 am
I admit I’ve never heard this before. But it looks like this people chose the wrong term for their services. Or shall I say the worst term. They must have failed to review the meaning or history or origin of the term pretexting.